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Updated: Some LISD Teachers May Get NO Salary Increases, Administrators Get 1.18%

Lewisville ISD Notes
Posted by WhosPlayin on 2010/8/4 16:00:00 (2586 reads)
Lewisville ISD Notes

This post is partially retracted. It appears all teachers will get some raise, although not all will get a good raise. We finally received updates from LISD on 8/25/2010 explaining that the years of service shown in the salary schedules only apply to entry into the district. We'll be posting an update in a seperate post later, to make sense of the confusion.

Well, this is interesting. A reader points out to us that although the headlines read that LISD approved an average 1.18% raise for all employees, that figure is misleading.

It turns out that all administrative staff will be getting the raise, but if the published schedules are correct, some teachers may not.

The reason is that teachers are paid based on a salary schedule that only takes into account educational level and years of experience. As teachers complete each year of service, they progress to the next step, which accounts for their experience. When inflation adjustments need to be made, the entire scale is adjusted so that each step pays more than it did in the previous year.

LISD is not applying any inflation values to the scale for teachers this year, except in the entry level 0 step, which is $450 higher this year for Bachelor's and Master's teachers.

Since the steps for highly experienced teachers with 25, 27, 29, or 31 + years of experience do not progress to the next step with an additional year of service, these teachers will not get raises.

The district has policy of wanting to hire "green" from now on, and shed some of its more expensive experienced teachers, and this policy would seem to reflect that.

The consumer price index is increased by 1.1% for the 12 months ending June 2010.


Files:
2010-2011 Teacher Salary Schedule
2009-2010 Teacher Salary Schedule


Update - 8/4/2010 - 11:26 p.m.
The above may not be entirely correct, in that the schedules posted on LISD's website (re-posted here) may not tell the entire salary story. There have been some comments below from LISD teachers who believe they are getting raises, and I want to believe them.

Based on the explanation in the text at the bottom of the 2009-2010 salary schedule, it would seem this applies at least to new hires, with or without previous experience. I'll check with the district on Thursday and see if they can clarify what other components go into teacher salaries.

Update 8/5/2010 5:27 p.m.
We asked LISD's communications department for clarification, and they sent a copy of the memo that was sent out to all teachers:
Greetings LISD Employees!

The Board of Trustees met July 29 to finalize all employee compensation and benefits for school year 2010-2011. The increases approved by the Board include:

Step increase for all teachers, librarians, counselors, nurses, diagnosticians and speech pathologists

Each employee listed above will receive a step increase over their salary last year. To determine this, simply find your step on last year’s schedule and move down one step.


1.18% increase for all other employees

All other employees will receive a 1.18% increase for school year 2010-2011. This percentage is based on the average step increase for all raises given to teachers, librarians, counselors, nurses, diagnosticians and speech pathologists.


District contribution to employee health insurance

The LISD Board of Trustees approved an increase in the District’s contribution toward health insurance premiums of $17 per month ($204 per year) for the 2010-11 school year only. The Board’s action helps offset an increase in health insurance premiums beginning September 1, 2010. This is the second time in the last four years the Board has increased the District’s contribution due to an increase in premiums.


Summary

Please provide this information to any employee who does not have email.

The Board of Trustees devotes countless unpaid hours to help ensure student achievement and provide invaluable leadership to the District. Please thank the Board of Trustees for their continued support of District employees and our families.


Although they didn't answer my specific question about employees in the second year of a two-year step, I take it to mean that the step IS the only raise in direct compensation. It may be semantics, but my thinking is that the way the pay scale is structured, a step is more of a pre-ordained entitlement than an overall increase.

After all, you should have some number of teachers retiring or quitting from the top end, and some new teachers coming in at the bottom, so that you would have somewhere close to the same salaries in aggregate. (Actually, since we're a growing district, we probably bring in more on the new end.)

Update 8/5/2010 - 8 p.m.
Apparently the district has more than one pay schedule for teachers. Some teachers are on a plan called the "Career Ladder", which has pay steps for 22 through 41. I am told that this particular chart is for teachers with Masters degrees who got on the plan years ago.

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Since I don't have last year's career ladder schedule, I'm not sure whether the steps got any increases.

I'll update as I find out more.

Update: 8/8/2010
We've been getting more information from the district and employees, and will try to summarize it for you when it becomes clear.

In the meantime, I've attached a chart that WhosPlayin has constructed based on the past three years of regular salary schedules. You can follow across the chart to see how it is possible that some teachers haven't received a raise in the coming year.


Related Links:
- Lewisville ISD Salaries by Employee
- House Bill 3646 of 2009 allocated $800 per teacher to each district for raises over and above what the district was going to pay.

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Posted: 2010/8/4 19:27  Updated: 2010/8/4 19:37
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Wrong on all counts. Each LISD teacher will get a pay raise according to the step the teacher is on.

I am a long time teacher in the district and you are applying inaccurate logic to the schedule. The 25-26 years experience you reference is on step 25. Next year for , my colleagues on that 25th step will receive a step to 26.

Quit spreading inaccurate information!
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Posted: 2010/8/4 19:42  Updated: 2010/8/4 19:42
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If you are on step 25, going into your 26th year, you get no step increase, and the step you remain on stays at the same level. Even if you were in a year where you would get a step, all you get is what you would already have been entitled to by virtue of your experience level. There is no adjustment for any inflation or general increases for good will.
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When the announcement was made via email to all teachers concerning the "Step Raise," I checked with the person in charge of disseminating all salary/raise information as it pertained to my individual years of experience. I AM GETTING an additional STEP raise; I am on Step 40 with my career ladder money. I, also, believe your information is incorrect. No district employee has a reason to willfully tell me, one-to-one, incorrect information.
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I hope there is more to it than just the scale. I hope you are right, but I have heard diferently from others. I'll ask for clarification tomorrow.

given the two dissenting commenters, readers should check back for an update or clarification
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Posted: 2010/8/4 21:14  Updated: 2010/8/4 21:14
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I believe information within the attached PDF files is incomplete/ incorrect.
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Posted: 2010/8/4 22:22  Updated: 2010/8/4 22:40
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You are wrong on the 25, 27, etc. steps not getting a step raise. Look at the far left column and you see those teachers progressing to the next step year to year. The explanatory language at the bottom of one of the two schedules explains this as well.

Your analysis that "no inflationary" raise was given is semantic. The district gave a step raise as required by the state per one of their last meetings. Was the raise inflationary in nature or not? Who knows. It was what it was and all the board members have expressed desire to give more but have not due to finances.

Your own unscientific poll illustrated much disdain for the idea of a tax increase which might be used to increase teacher pay. I am sure based in part of your site's negativity, the board determined that the community would not support a tax increase. So the board took the most conservative approach on both measures--2 cent tax increase and minimal state approved raise.

And now, here you are misrepresenting the facts and generally showing a true lack of understanding of the issues at hand. Do your homework.

Don't look now but here come programmatic and personnel cuts. Won't nobody be worried about "inflationary" raises then and will focus their attention on saving their own a**es from the unemployment lines.
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look at the steps again. If a teacher has 25 years, and is beginning her 26th year, there is no step. If the chart fails to tell the whole story, that is a communication problem, but if you believe the chart as presented by the district, then what I said is true.
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I have updated the post and sent an inquiry to the district to get some clarification.

I do want to address this statement: "Your own unscientific poll illustrated much disdain for the idea of a tax increase which might be used to increase teacher pay. I am sure based in part of your site's negativity, the board determined that the community would not support a tax increase."

The poll shocked me. I'm used to seeing voters approve bonds even when they seem wasteful. I don't think for one second that the board or administration trust a thing said here, or they would have corrected themselves before three board members got tossed out. As you know, the district conducted their own poll with a much larger number of respondents and a much larger reach than we had. I have not seen the results of that poll, but I'm guessing it said pretty much the same as what ours said.

What I told the board members privately is that I would have tried to go a couple of cents higher than that, and put on the hard sell. Because, in spite of what seems like "negativity" here, it's clear to me that the money is needed. If I thought that by rejecting the tax increase, we could have the administration quit wasting money on overhead and focus on instruction, I guess I would go for that, but I don't see it happening.

I'm going to support the increase, and support efforts by the board and citizens to drive greater accountability and transparency in the district. Both of those things need to happen.

When it comes down to it, teachers are the front line, and are chronically under-paid, based on the amount of education required and hours put in. If the district hits tough times, we can make cuts in overhead that I don't think would be missed. So far, we've avoided naming positions and departments, but if it comes to that, we may have to go there. Hopefully our board and our new superintendent will do the right thing first.

I may not be able to convince you of this, but I want you to know that in spite of the posts that you believe show "negativity", I'm actually pretty proud of this district and most of the people working in it. Part of our role here is to point out faults that may not get a lot of attention, but need to be fixed. The district spends $910,000 a year on an eight-person department to give you the good news every Friday in an email. We try to cover as much of the rest as we can.
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Posted: 2010/8/5 8:14  Updated: 2010/8/5 8:40
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Steve is generally well balanced and does "do his homework" more than most that run blogs. He researches topics and runs this blog in his "spare" time with no pay because he feels that it is important to bring issues to the forefront and keep a dialogue going in hopes of making his little piece of the world a better place. I wish everyone had the attitude and dedication that he has. You speak of Steve's supposed negativity, the negativity in the posts by teachers so far surprises me. The first words in your post, anonymous teacher, are "you are wrong". Is that how you speak to your students? Scary! I hope my children don't run into a teacher with that attitude!
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Only ONE teacher expressed your definition of "negativity" when he/she started his/her response with "You are wrong". The OTHER teacher expressed a desire for the PDF attachments to reflect what the state has mandated for a salary increase, and alerted Stephen to check the accuracy. IF there is an inaccuracy, we need to know that, right? I wholeheartedly support Steve! I admire his energy and dedication to this blog, and I AGREE that he keeps a "dialogue going in hopes of making his [and our] little piece of the world a better place." EVERYONE needs help making INFORMED decisions, and this place is great for learning information; however, I know Steve wants the correct information. So do I, of course. BTW, many times teachers DO have to say those three simple words, "You are wrong." Saying those three words shouldn't automatically label that educator as "scary"! Any teacher who still doesn't know his/her salary with eleven days before the contract year starts is likely on edge, right?
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Posted: 2010/8/5 19:31  Updated: 2010/8/5 19:39
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How about anonymous teacher number one that states hatefully, "wrong on all counts"? That isn't considered negative? Clickheels, I stand by what I said, the teacher comments here are negative [yours less so than the others] and there are better ways to start a post than "you are wrong". There are also better ways to talk to children than to tell them outright that they are wrong [for example, Have you considered..., Perhaps you need to look at #3 again..., Did you try..., etc.] I am sorry if you and the other teachers are on edge about your salaries but it is the school district that you should be angry with, not Steve. He got the information that he posted from the school district website. If you have different tables or information, send it to him instead of just telling him he is wrong and attacking him. BTW, you aren't the only teacher/ex-teacher posting.
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I did get some more specifics that should clarify things a bit. I'll post something momentarily.

For what it's worth, I didn't take Clickheels' comments negatively. I'm just concerned about getting it right.
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Posted: 2010/8/5 20:06  Updated: 2010/8/5 20:24
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Because you are a good man.
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Posted: 2010/8/5 19:54  Updated: 2010/8/5 20:25
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I think you & ClickHeels are saying the same thing. "Wrong" is hateful. The poster could have expressed him/herself in a more polite manner.
ClickHeels, you & others are posting that Steve is doing a great job keeping taxpayers informed-a position I heartily agree with. Some times he is the ONLY one getting info for us. He thought he could trust an item posted on the LISD site. On this occasion he might have needed to verify the info from a second source.
From what I read, some posters here are district employees. Some have gone through LISD channels, requested info on salary for 2010-11 & got it in a timely manner.
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Posted: 2010/8/5 20:59  Updated: 2010/8/5 21:16
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Well, apparently I am "hateful." After rereading my post, I did come on pretty strong if the purpose is a rational discourse among anonymous parties. For that, I apologize.

However, the discussion seems to have slipped down a slippery slope where the blogger seems to say that no actual raise was given but just a step to which a teacher was entitled. I will remind my detractors to read the blogger's headline which clearly states, "LISD Teachers Get NO Salary Increases, Administrators..." In a word and as I posted, this is WRONG.

As an educator, I am not in charge of the blogger's tutelage and if he is wrong, well, he is wrong. Let's all be grown up about things. Again, I was too strong in some of my other comments.

To assume I do not know what I am doing with your children based on an anonymous post to a blog is silly, much like the arguement thus far expressed herein.
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You're not hateful. The truth is that I rolled the story before I had all the facts. I trusted the LISD documents at face value, and I had corroboration from another LISD employee who emailed me about it.

As you may have noticed, I updated the headline and changed some of the wording to tone it down. There are some things about this I still don't understand and am trying to understand, but I am bothered that it seems that the district might be selling this as a raise, when it's an increase in step that would have come anyway.

If I'm wrong, please help me understand how. Are you on the Career Ladder plan?
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Posted: 2010/8/5 22:29  Updated: 2010/8/6 9:39
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Nope, not on career ladder, the state discontinued that plan the year I was due to go on it so I got screwed over there too.

The state did provide a step to all teachers this year. If they had not, given the $ problems in the district with the deficit and all, our illustrious leaders could have just frozen our salaries by making all the steps this year our steps next year. Not sure what they would have done for new staff...maybe lowered the starting salary?

The step we all got ain't much (not an English teacher) but it beats a stick in the eye and no increase at all.
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This is straight from the mouth (okay, the email mouth) of Eric Hartman, Texas AFT's Chief Legislative Staffer (read: kick-ass public education lobbyist).

"In addition to the state-mandated pass-through raise, HB 3646 required the district to pay, in both 2009-2010 school year and 2010-2011 school year, any step raise called for under its 2008-2009 salary schedule, thus turning whatever step increase was included in that schedule into a salary floor guarantee for 09-10 and 10-11. The district has to do at least this much. Only if the amount provided exceeds this guaranteed level can the district claim it gave a local, discretionary increase on top of what the state law required."

Crunch the numbers from the 2008-2009 salary schedule and see if LISD contributed any of it or you can call them on "liar, liar, pants on fire". I would guess they are partially responsible for the increase.
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Posted: 2010/8/7 12:06  Updated: 2010/8/7 13:40
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I do not see where anyone said you personally were hateful. They said your statement was hateful. There is a big difference!
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